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January 1995, Week 4

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Eero Laurila <[log in to unmask]>
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Eero Laurila <[log in to unmask]>
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Wed, 25 Jan 1995 01:06:56 GMT
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Rich Trapp ([log in to unmask]) wrote:
: Greetings all!
:    We're trying to document what versions of MPE/iX have TCP/IP avaiable.
: I know it's bundled with ARPA services on MPE/iX 5.0.  From there my
: knowledge takes quite the nose dive.  What previous versions of MPE had
: ARPA or at least TCP/IP available as a purchased product?  And, if you
: can remember, what's the product numbers?
 
About tcp/ip, the first version (on classic hp3000) was available in
MPE/V UB-MIT (or UB-delta-1).  This was back in 1985..1986.
 
When MPE/XL was born (i.e. MPE/XL 1.0), it came out with NS/3000 that runs
over standard TCP/IP stack.  Please don't come back saying that NS is a
proprietary product and not standard tcp/ip....  I'm tired of this.
Yes, NS is proprietary but the underlying TCP/IP has always been the same
de-facto standard tcp/ip and conforms to MIL specs and RFCs 793, 792 and 1122.
 
I.e. any MPE/XL or iX system out there has a standard tcp/ip transport if
it has LANLINK installed (usually with NS or ARPA services).  FTP/iX from
HP was introduced with MPE/iX 2.2 in 1990.
 
NetIPC API to TCP was there all the time and BSD sockets API was added
in MPE/iX 4.0.  Also, another common misconception is that NetIPC and BSD
sockets cannot talk to each other -- wrong.  One has to remember that
neither of these two is a protocol, only an API to the top of TCP and
there's nothing preventing you from having a NetIPC sockets application
talking to BSD sockets application over TCP/IP across internet.
 
Product numbers...  hmmm... maybe someone out there can remember those...
I tend to know the technical side but the product numbers have never been
my strong side....
 
Hope this helps,
Eero Laurila - Hewlett-Packard CSY Networking lab, NS services.

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