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Regards,

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David A. Thatcher
 Advanced Network Systems Inc.  ANSI
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On
> Behalf Of Denys Beauchemin
> Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 10:22 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] OT: Web development platforms
>
>
> Isn't SAP DB based on ADABAS?
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Denys. . .
>
> Denys Beauchemin
> HICOMP
> (800) 323-8863  (281) 288-7438         Fax: (281) 288-7438
> denys at hicomp.com                             www.hicomp.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of
> David Thatcher
> Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 8:57 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: OT: Web development platforms
>
> > Behalf Of Richard Gambrell
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 7:55 AM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] OT: Web development platforms
> >
> >
> > David Thatcher wrote:
> > >
> > > > From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On
> > > > Behalf Of [log in to unmask]
> > > > Dear fellow listers,
> > > >
> > > > What would you consider to be the best combination of
> > > > platform/server/development tools for
> > > > business web development?
> > >
> > > IMO:
> > >
> > > Web-iX/Java/IMAGE on MPE/iX
> > >
> > > www.advnetsys.com/webix.html
> > >
> >
> > Ok, David, tell us what to plan for the future?  If we develop new
> > stuff that uses Image, what do we migrate it to down the road?
> >
> > Shouldn't we all build SQL databases now, which I'm sure Web-iX
> > would support, too. Do you plan to support Eloquence or are you
> > betting on a future for Image?
> >
>
> We will continue to support and enhance our IMAGE based products in hopes
> that IMAGE goes open source or continues to be supported.  Our
> products are
> also being ported to work with HP-Eloquence, which I might add is a nice
> alternative to IMAGE and offers an easy migration path off the 3k for your
> current IMAGE databases. Version 7 due out at the end of this
> month seems to
> have a lot of web tools available.  Our tools, Java API for
> Eloquence (ADBC)
> and Eloquence access from Web/iX will also be due out at the end of this
> month.
>
> www.hp-eloquence.com
>
> Web-iX, being a J2EE application server will continue to support the J2EE
> architecture and will work with all relational and non-relational
> databases
> on the market.  Being 100% Java, it can also be used with any platform.
> Keep your eye on the Connector Architecture, their will be one common
> interface to all databases (Relational and non-Relational).
>
> http://java.sun.com/j2ee/connector/
>
> Our choice of Relational Databases is still SAP DB.  It runs on
> HP-UX, Linux
> and NT.  It is supported by SAP via their list server, and seems to be as
> robust as Oracle. Costwise, SAP DB is free while Oracle remains
> high priced.
> I notice on their list group, a lot of migrations from Oracle and many
> installations on Linux.
>
> www.sapdb.org
>
> > Also, how would you respond another's comment that the J2EE
> > stuff is hard to learn?
> >
>
> I disagree that J2EE is hard to learn.  IMO, J2EE is the way of
> the future,
> every one will be using it eventually, it only makes sense if you want to
> build scalable, pluggable, integrated, vendor neutral business
> applications.
>
> ANSI-Studio, our new IDE tool, will not only have VPLUS migration wizards,
> ADBC development wizards, but we will also have wizards to create J2EE
> applications.  Our wizards will also work with other popular IDE tools on
> the market. ANSI-Studio will deploy to any J2EE application server on the
> market.
>
> You can find some screen shots at:
>
> www.advnetsys.com/ansi-studioshot1.htm
>
> http://java.sun.com/j2ee/  is a great resource for J2EE and I also suggest
> the book "Developing Web Services Using J2EE" by Michael Yawn,
> due out this
> May.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> --------------------------------------
>
> David A. Thatcher
> Advanced Network Systems Inc.  ANSI
> http://www.advnetsys.com
> Voice:  +1 908-638-3330
> Fax:    +1 908-638-3331
> Email   [log in to unmask]
>
> The Internet Agency, UK
> http://www.the-internet-agency.com
> European Distributors for Advanced Networks Systems Inc.
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> Fax:    +44 1202 418209
> Email   [log in to unmask]
>
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