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Actually, I left the Dysfunctional Dominion just a couple years after the
road signs went metric.  I never got the grasp of the kilometer, there
seemed to be way to many of them and gas got more expensive right when
metrification kicked in.  So, I figured you had to get lots more klicks for
your liter.

Denys

-----Original Message-----
From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
Of Bob Comeau
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 8:49 AM
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Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] Full synonym chain (really ugly)

Not to mention (well I guess this IS to mention) that he's apparently been 
away from Canada far too long.

250 miles is only about 400 kilometers, not 750...

or - 750 kilometers in 3 hours is bound to attract some attention on the 
ground also...

Bob Comeau
Sr. Systems Programmer  Analyst
Crossley Carpet Mills Ltd.
(902)895-5491 ext 139



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01/05/07 10:42 AM
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Hmmm, 250 miles in less than 3 hours driving time?  I guess you're not
taking into account the time spent at the side of the road while the
Highway Patrol officer writes you out a ticket for excessive speeding?
8-)


Raymond Shahan
Computer Programmer
 REPUBLIC TITLE OF TEXAS, INC.
  2701 W Plano Parkway 
Plano, TX 75075
 

direct 214.556.0202
main 972.578.8611
fax 972.424.5621
 www.republictitle.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: Denys Beauchemin [mailto:[log in to unmask]] 
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 8:24 AM
To: Ray Shahan; 'F. Alfredo Rego'; [log in to unmask]
Cc: [log in to unmask]
Subject: RE: [HP3000-L] Full synonym chain (really ugly)

Airfare?  From Dallas to Houston?  It's only 250 miles (750 kilometers)
from
Plano to Clear Lake, less than 3 hours driving time.  :-)

Denys

-----Original Message-----
From: Ray Shahan [mailto:[log in to unmask]] 
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 8:21 AM
To: F. Alfredo Rego; [log in to unmask]
Cc: [log in to unmask]
Subject: RE: [HP3000-L] Full synonym chain (really ugly)

Hi Alfredo,

<<"Do you have Adager, Ray?"

Umm, no, we have another product (that was here when I got here).   8-)

>> "Had you attended the recent GHRUG meeting in Houston, you would have
enjoyed my mini-dissertation on the crucial difference between "the" and
"a".
We missed you there."

I missed being GHRUG, but it was something I would have to have paid for
myself (airfare, hotel, time-off-work, everything), and I just couldn't
swing it.  Maybe next year?

As always, thanks for you offer to help, and have a great weekend!


Raymond Shahan
Computer Programmer
 REPUBLIC TITLE OF TEXAS, INC.
  2701 W Plano Parkway 
Plano, TX 75075
 

direct 214.556.0202
main 972.578.8611
fax 972.424.5621
 www.republictitle.com
[log in to unmask]
 

-----Original Message-----
From: F. Alfredo Rego [mailto:[log in to unmask]] 
Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 8:51 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Cc: Ray Shahan; [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] Full synonym chain (really ugly)

At 11:50 AM -0600 1/2/07, Denys Beauchemin wrote:

...
>So, big deal you say.  How do I fix this?  Well, changing the data type
is
>the solution. 

Beware of anything that includes the phrase "the solution" ;-)

I am sure Denys meant "a solution".


>IMAGE does not care what you put in the various fields.  So,
>if you wanted to use hashing, where IMAGE uses all 64 bits for address
>calculation, you could simply redefine the data item as an X8 and let
>whatever tool you use to do the trick recalculate all the record based
on
>hashing instead of just modulo.  Your programs would not know the
difference
>as long as they are not interrogating IMAGE with DBINFO to find out
what
>type of data is ostensibly in the field.  In other words, let's say you
are
>using BASIC; if you do a DBGET of the item using a REAL buffer to
receive
>the data, it will go right in there and be usable by the program as is.
>
>This will defeat Query and other similar programs to which you cannot
apply
>a dictionary of some type.  These programs will interrogate IMAGE and
get
>told the data is X and they will expect that and be surprised.
>
>On further thought, I would probably change it from R4 to P16.  That
will
>still hash.

The key [did I really write this?] to the solution is the word "hash".

Do you have Adager, Ray?

If you do, I have "a" good (i.e., an "a" as in "Adager") solution for
you
that will NOT "defeat Query" (and will not defeat ANY standard accessor,
in fact).

Had you attended the recent GHRUG meeting in Houston, you would have
enjoyed my mini-dissertation on the crucial difference between "the" and
"a".
We missed you there.


Your "A" friend,

  _______________
 |               |
 |               |
 |            r  |  Alfredo                  http://www.adager.com

 |          e    | 
 |        g      |  F. Alfredo Rego 
 |      a        |  Manager, R & D Labs 
 |    d          |  Adager Corporation
 |  A            |  Sun Valley, Idaho 83353-3000            U.S.A.
 |               |
 |_______________|

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