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Stan Sieler <[log in to unmask]>
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Stan Sieler <[log in to unmask]>
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Thu, 5 Jun 1997 09:55:07 -0700
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Neil writes:
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> I have noticed a trend on the web where sites are starting to allow the
> www to be dropped - I think this is a good thing, since the www has
> become somewhat superfluous, not to mention difficult to say at dinner
> or in pubs.
> So for instance, we allow our clients to be addressed as either
> http://www.bankmed.co.za, or just http://bankmed.co.za
> Initially, it's probably important (and courteous) to keep both going.

The "www" isn't superfluous by definition ... although in practice it
isn't needed at many sites.  The need, or lack of it, is determined by
each site, independently.

For example, at Allegro Consultants, Inc., allegro.com and www.allegro.com
are different machines.  According to nslookup:

   allegro.com      Address:  198.102.6.10
   www.allegro.com  Address:  198.102.6.12

and:
   bart.allegro.com Address:  198.102.6.10
   lisa.allegro.com Address:  198.102.6.12

When we setup our web server, we had no intention of putting it on a
mere RS6000 ("bart", the original machine on the network at our site).
Instead, we put it on an HP3000 ("lisa").  So, for a year or so, if you
asked for:  http://www.allegro.com, you got the web server on Lisa.
If you asked for http://allegro.com, that would resolve to bart, which
had no web server, and you'd get no reply.

(Eventually, we setup a web server for Denkart, Inc., on bart.
We published DNS entries equating allegro.com = denkart.com = www.denkart.com,
so if you ask for www.denkart.com, denkart.com, allegro.com, you get 198.102.6.10;
if you ask for www.allegro.com or lisa.allegro.com, you get 198.102.6.12)

(BTW, most of our computers were named after Simpsons characters...the female
ones do most of the work (the 3000s), and the male ones are either slow or bad
(the 9000s and 6000s) :)

For Adager, nslookup shows:

   www.adager.com   Address: 199.245.241.35
   adager.com       Address: (none)

For HP, nslookup shows:

   www.hp.com       Address: 192.170.128.21, 192.151.45.22, 192.151.11.10
   hp.com           Address: 15.255.152.4

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