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On Saturday, October 25, 2003, at 08:02 AM, Wayne Brown wrote:

> "I am trying here to prevent anyone saying the really foolish thing
> that
> people often say about Him: "I'm ready to accept Jesus as a great moral
> teacher, but I don't accept His claim to be God."  That is the one
> thing
> we must not say.  A man who was merely a man and said the sort of
> things
> Jesus said would not be a great moral teacher.  He would be either a
> lunatic--on a level with a man who says he is a poached egg--or else he
> would be the Devil of Hell.  You must make your choice.  Either this
> man
> was, and is, the Son of God: or else a madman or something worse.  You
> can
> shut Him up for a fool, you can spit at Him and kill Him as a demon;
> or you can fall at His feet and call Him Lord and God.  But let us not
> come with any patronising nonsense about His being a great human
> teacher.
> He has not left that open to us.  He did not intend to."  --C.S. Lewis,
> "Mere Christianity," Book II ("What Christians Believe"), Chapter 3,
> last paragraph

Since I don't believe in a Devil or a Hell and I don't believe him to
be a son of God,
I'm left with the choices "lunatic", "madman" or "something worse".

Sorry, I, like all persons living today, know too little to make any
choice.

At least, like Socrates, I know that I don't know. (see below)

FW

For it was Socrates, himself one of the first philosophers, that
expounded at his trial, when comparing himself with a local politician
said,

      "Well, although I do not suppose that either of us knows
       anything really beautiful and good, I am better off than
       he is for he knows nothing, and thinks that he knows;
       I neither know nor think that I know."

And, of course, it was at this trial he was judged guilty of not
believing in the Gods of the state and was put to death.

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