>>The offline HP utility COPYUTIL will do this type of raw
>>backup/restore.
>
>>I've used it on both my 3000 and 9000 machines to take
>>special backups.  I warn you though, it's got to be the world's
>>slowest backup program.
>
>We used it once too;  or rather, our CE used it;  to replace a
>drive that Predictive said was going bad.  It worked fine and
>thereby saved a RELOAD;  however, note that Mark's above
>warning is not an exaggeration.  Since we have three volume
>sets on our machine (USER, BACKUP, and the <long_name>,
>doing an INSTALL of the <long_name> would have been
>noticeably faster than using COPYUTIL....  Of course if you
>have 100+ spindles and one of them in a large volume set
>fails, COPYUTIL could be a real timesaver....

If the broken disc is part of a (non-mirrored) user volume set you
might probably also be able to use VOLUTIL COPYVOL to create a raw
disc copy... As far as I recall (being at home) it will allow a disc
to disc copy (as long as the user set is VSCLOSEd).

You'd need to temporarily have both, the old and the new disc hooked
to the system, though. And you'd have to make sure that there will be
no VSOPEN or alike after the COPYVOL (as long as both drives are still
visible to the system).

Haven't done it myself so far, but might copy faster than via DDS.
I also do not know how COPYVOL behaves when old disc gives media read
errors during the copy operation...

Lars (anybody "been there, done that"?)