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Brian Donaldson <[log in to unmask]>
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Brian Donaldson <[log in to unmask]>
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Wed, 10 Dec 2008 19:57:40 -0500
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I'm not using jumbo datasets and I have not reached the 4gb limit by any
means.

However, it looks like I found a solution that is working --

In the program I plugged in the logic to do a DBXEND/DBXBEGIN combo
every 1023 DBPUT's. Recompiled the program, and am rerunning the program
as I write this.

So far, the program is still running.

(Suprtool stats here)

Capacity: 228532 (19), 1026, 1026, 721012  Entries: 228059 
Highwater: 228059  Bytes: 180



However, it still leaves me with the uncomfortable, nasty feeling about the 
stats provided by DISCFREE:

:discfree
 
DISCFREE A.50.01 Copyright (C) Hewlett-Packard 1992.  All rights reserved.
                         WED, DEC 10, 2008,  4:48 PM
 
Syntax is: DISCFREE [<format>][,<ldev>][,<vsname>]
 
 Where <format> is one of the following:
   A, HISTOGRAM, 1: to see a histogram.
   B, ALLOCATION, 2: to see disc allocation.
   C, ALLOCATION2, 3: to see disc allocation format 2.
   D, SUMMARY, 4: to see disc allocation summary.
   E, SUMMARY2, 5: to see disc allocation summary format 2.
 
 Where <ldev> is the logical device number of a disc.
 
Enter [<format>][,<ldev>][,<vsname>] : 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
LDEV :     1 -- (MPEXL_SYSTEM_VOLUME_SET:MEMBER1)
 
LARGEST FREE AREA:     15146032  TOTAL FREE SPACE:   15309136
 
     0 BLOCK(S) OF      1-     9 CONTIG. SECTORS =          0 FREE SECTORS.  0%
     9 BLOCK(S) OF     10-    99 CONTIG. SECTORS =        384 FREE SECTORS.  0%
    17 BLOCK(S) OF    100-   999 CONTIG. SECTORS =       6416 FREE SECTORS.  0%
    10 BLOCK(S) OF   1000-  9999 CONTIG. SECTORS =      27168 FREE SECTORS.  0%
     4 BLOCK(S) OF  10000- 99999 CONTIG. SECTORS =     129136 FREE SECTORS.  1%
     1 BLOCK(S) OF 100000-AND UP CONTIG. SECTORS =   15146032 FREE SECTORS. 99%
 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
LDEV :     2 -- (MPEXL_SYSTEM_VOLUME_SET:MEMBER2)
 
LARGEST FREE AREA:    129465488  TOTAL FREE SPACE:  129572448
 
     0 BLOCK(S) OF      1-     9 CONTIG. SECTORS =          0 FREE SECTORS.  0%
    67 BLOCK(S) OF     10-    99 CONTIG. SECTORS =       2960 FREE SECTORS.  0%
    38 BLOCK(S) OF    100-   999 CONTIG. SECTORS =      10256 FREE SECTORS.  0%
     0 BLOCK(S) OF   1000-  9999 CONTIG. SECTORS =          0 FREE SECTORS.  0%
     1 BLOCK(S) OF  10000- 99999 CONTIG. SECTORS =      93744 FREE SECTORS.  0%
     1 BLOCK(S) OF 100000-AND UP CONTIG. SECTORS =  129465488 FREE SECTORS.100%
 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
LDEV :     3 -- (MPEXL_SYSTEM_VOLUME_SET:MEMBER3)
 
LARGEST FREE AREA:    129305504  TOTAL FREE SPACE:  129310064
 
     0 BLOCK(S) OF      1-     9 CONTIG. SECTORS =          0 FREE SECTORS.  0%
     6 BLOCK(S) OF     10-    99 CONTIG. SECTORS =        160 FREE SECTORS.  0%
     5 BLOCK(S) OF    100-   999 CONTIG. SECTORS =       1408 FREE SECTORS.  0%
     1 BLOCK(S) OF   1000-  9999 CONTIG. SECTORS =       2992 FREE SECTORS.  0%
     0 BLOCK(S) OF  10000- 99999 CONTIG. SECTORS =          0 FREE SECTORS.  0%
     1 BLOCK(S) OF 100000-AND UP CONTIG. SECTORS =  129305504 FREE SECTORS.100%
 
:discfree
 
DISCFREE A.50.01 Copyright (C) Hewlett-Packard 1992.  All rights reserved.
                         WED, DEC 10, 2008,  4:49 PM
 
Syntax is: DISCFREE [<format>][,<ldev>][,<vsname>]
 
 Where <format> is one of the following:
   A, HISTOGRAM, 1: to see a histogram.
   B, ALLOCATION, 2: to see disc allocation.
   C, ALLOCATION2, 3: to see disc allocation format 2.
   D, SUMMARY, 4: to see disc allocation summary.
   E, SUMMARY2, 5: to see disc allocation summary format 2.
 
 Where <ldev> is the logical device number of a disc.
 
Enter [<format>][,<ldev>][,<vsname>] : c
ALL MEASUREMENTS ARE IN SECTORS.
ALL PERCENTAGES ARE RELATIVE TO THE DEVICE SIZE.
 
           |    Configured     |      In Use       |     Available     |
-----------+-------------------+-------------------+-------------------+
 
LDEV :     1 -- (MPEXL_SYSTEM_VOLUME_SET:MEMBER1)
 Device    |   16777200        |    1468064 (  9%) |   15309136 ( 91%) |
 Permanent |   12582864 ( 75%) |    1306784 (  8%) |   11276080 ( 67%) |
 Transient |   12582864 ( 75%) |     161280 (  1%) |   12421584 ( 74%) |
 
LDEV :     2 -- (MPEXL_SYSTEM_VOLUME_SET:MEMBER2)
 Device    |  142265904        |   12696208 (  9%) |  129569696 ( 91%) |
 Permanent |  142265904 (100%) |   12309440 (  9%) |  129569696 ( 91%) |
 Transient |  142265904 (100%) |     386768 (  0%) |  129569696 ( 91%) |
 
LDEV :     3 -- (MPEXL_SYSTEM_VOLUME_SET:MEMBER3)
 Device    |  142265904        |   12955840 (  9%) |  129310064 ( 91%) |
 Permanent |  142265904 (100%) |   12955840 (  9%) |  129310064 ( 91%) |
 Transient |  142265904 (100%) |          0 (  0%) |  129310064 ( 91%) |
 
TOTALS : 
 Device    |  301309008        |   27120112 (  9%) |  274188896 ( 91%) |
 Permanent |  297114672 ( 99%) |   26572064 (  9%) |  270155840 ( 90%) |
 Transient |  297114672 ( 99%) |     548048 (  0%) |  271301344 ( 90%) |
 
I feel I have too many files on my system to justify having an available
space on these discs of 90%, 91%.....

I have looked at the system log files and there are no disc i/o errors
listed.

DSTAT ALL doesn't show any obvious problems either:

dstat all
 LDEV-TYPE            STATUS    VOLUME           VOLUME SET - GEN
 ----------           -------   ----------------------------------
    1-ST19171N         MASTER    MEMBER1          MPEXL_SYSTEM_VOLUME_SET-0
    2-ST136475LW       MEMBER    MEMBER2          MPEXL_SYSTEM_VOLUME_SET-0
    3-ST136475LW       MEMBER    MEMBER3          MPEXL_SYSTEM_VOLUME_SET-0

The two ST136475LW disc drives are listed in the iodfault.pub.sys as 18gb
drives, but the reality is that these are 36gb drives.

In SYSGEN:

     io> LD 1
 LDEV:     1  DEVNAME:                    OUTDEV:        0   MODE:             
   ID: ST19171N                           RSIZE:       128   DEVTYPE: DISC     
 PATH: 52.2.0                             MPETYPE:       4   MPESUBTYPE:  2    
CLASS: DISC     SPOOL                                                          
                                                                               
     io> LD 2
 LDEV:     2  DEVNAME:                    OUTDEV:        0   MODE:             
   ID: ST136475LW                         RSIZE:       128   DEVTYPE: DISC     
 PATH: 52.1.0                             MPETYPE:       4   MPESUBTYPE:  2    
CLASS: DISC     SPOOL                                                          
                                                                               
     io> LD 3
 LDEV:     3  DEVNAME:                    OUTDEV:        0   MODE:             
   ID: ST136475LW                         RSIZE:       128   DEVTYPE: DISC     
 PATH: 52.3.0                             MPETYPE:       4   MPESUBTYPE:  2    
CLASS: DISC     SPOOL                                                          
                                                                               

Brian.


On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 08:07:22 -0600, Mark Ranft <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

>DDX doesn't work on jumbo datasets.  Have you reached the 4GB limit?
>
>
>Mark Ranft
>Pro 3K
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
>Of Brian Donaldson
>Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 8:47 PM
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] Available Disc Space Error Problem
>
>Some other things I should tell everyone regarding what I am doing here --
>
>
>No HWMPUT (disabled)
>
>Program calls DBCONTROL mode 5 to set CIUPDATE=on for current process.
>Program calls DBCONTROL mode 7 to set DEADLOCKDETECT flag=on 
>for current process.
>
>PM program (calls a sub that FOPEN's the root file, reads the user labels 
>to get the db passwords passed back to the calling program, calls
>GETUSERMODE before returning to mainline)
>
>database DBOPENed three (3) times with the same Image db (write) password.
>
>DBXBEGIN/DBLOCK (mode5 item locks)/DBFIND/DBGET/DBPUT done with access path
>three (3). Upon failure of DBPUT I call DBXUNDO, close the DB's and all
>open files and then call intrinsic QUITPROG.
>
>Normally, I can solve these problems in a minimal amount of time but this
>one has me beat. I've been trying to get beyond this problem for days on end
>now
>with no solution. I cannot figure out if it truly is an Image expansion
>problem,
>DBX problem compounding the issue(s) or if it is a behind the scenes system
>problem regarding my available disc space.
>
>
>Brian.
>
>
>On Tue, 9 Dec 2008 17:15:27 -0800, Walter J. Murray <[log in to unmask]>
>wrote:
>
>>Craig suggests:
>>
>>> This is just a guess, but in DBUTIL do a SHOW DBNAME ALL
>>> Is HWMPUT enabled?
>> 
>>Craig may be on to something here.  In any event, it raises a question
>>in my mind. 
>>
>>If dynamic detail data set expansion is in effect, and if HWMPUT is
>>enabled (either through DBUTIL or programmatically), and the high-water
>>mark is at the current capacity, but there is space in the delete chain,
>>what does IMAGE do?  Does it attempt an expansion, or does it use the
>>delete chain?  I would expect the latter, but I can't remember seeing
>>this documented clearly.  If it's the former, and if the current
>>capacity is at the maximum, does IMAGE recover gracefully and revert to
>>using the delete chain?
>>
>>Walter
>>
>>Walter J. Murray
>>
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