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Gilles Schipper <[log in to unmask]>
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Too see when system was last booted, simply:

:listf idp.bootup,3

Also, if you're really want to hide your console - besides physically hiding the console and keyboard - consider replacing with a "virtual" console, in the form of an "non-virtual" Secure Web Console.

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Gilles Schipper 
GSA Inc. 
HP System Administration Specialists 
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---------- Original Message -----------
From: Tracy Pierce <[log in to unmask]> 
To: [log in to unmask] 
Sent: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 12:59:30 -0800 
Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] A new record?

> > if the console is in a secure area, i think the console 
> > should be left logged on. (don't forget, it may be the only 
> > device with a serial connection to the system!). 
> > 
> > perhaps, otoh, if you do little tape handling (and/or all 
> > your tape drives are configured for autoreply) or forms 
> > printing, maybe it makes more sense to not have the console logged on. 
> > 
> > i'd think a side-effect of not having the console logged on 
> > is that no one/nothing is actually watching the messages on 
> > the console.  i realize having the operator logged on is no 
> > guarantee either (ask me about my operators....) but i do 
> > think the inverse is true.  and if no one/nothing is 
> > watching, then how do you know what's really happening on the 
> > system?        - d 
> 
> turned on and connected and logged on are 3 different things of course. 
> if you're concerned about all those messages no one's reading, find a 
> way to log them (R1W.exe with plenty of disk and log-bottom works 
> great), but it doesn't require a logged on console.  Of course the only 
> risk of leaving the console logged on is that any passerby can act as 
> operator.sys or whoever; if that includes messing with other folks' 
> spoofles, bad, but that same passerby can do plenty of damage with ^B 
> (or even just a space!) without a logon anyway. 
> 
> Since my consoles are sitting in a room with a bunch of Windows servers 
> serviced by people too young to appreciate older computing environments, 
> I keep them logged off and the keyboards out of reach; if I could remove 
> the keyboards and keep the terminal happy I would. 
> 
> So to participate in the long-uptime bragging rights, how do I see the 
> last time my system was rebooted?   
> 
> the other Tracy 
> 
> > 
> > ---- 
> > Donna Hofmeister, HP-CSA Sr. System Programmer 
> > dgarverick -at- longs -dot- com 
> > 925-210-6631 Longs Drug Stores 
> >   
> > >>>MY opinions, not Longs Drug Stores'<< 
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ---- 
> > From: Denys Beauchemin <[log in to unmask]> 
> > To: [log in to unmask] 
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 8:47:18 AM 
> > Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] A new record? 
> > 
> > 
> > An excellent question, Grasshopper. 
> > 
> > 2 reasons: 1) because you can, and 2) to start on topic 
> > discussions about 
> > bragging rights. 
> > 
> > Denys 
> > -----Original Message----- 
> > From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion 
> > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf 
> > Of Tracy Pierce 
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 9:58 AM 
> > To: [log in to unmask] 
> > Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] A new record? 
> > 
> > why leave an active session on the console? 
> > 
> > > -----Original Message----- 
> > > From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion 
> > > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ray Shahan 
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 6:13 AM 
> > > To: [log in to unmask] 
> > > Subject: Re: A new record? 
> > > 
> > > Not to hijack this thread, but I once contracted to a shop 
> > that had an 
> > > AS400 and an hp3k...they did an IPL on the AS400 every 
> > > Sunday, and when 
> > > they got the 3k, they did an IPL on it every Sunday, too.   
> > I explained 
> > > to them that the 3k could literally run for years without 
> > an IPL, and 
> > > that they certainly did not need to IPL the 3k every week.   
> > They just 
> > > scoffed at the very idea of not doing an IPL every week, and 
> > > when I left 
> > > (2 years later), they were still doing an IPL every Sunday to both 
> > > boxes. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Have a great week! 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Raymond Shahan 
> > > Computer Programmer 
> > >  REPUBLIC TITLE OF TEXAS, INC. 
> > >   2701 W Plano Parkway 
> > > Plano, TX 75075 
> > >   
> > > 
> > > direct 214.556.0202 
> > > main 972.578.8611 
> > > fax 972.424.5621 
> > >  www.republictitle.com 
> > > [log in to unmask] 
> > >   
> > > -----Original Message----- 
> > > From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On 
> > > Behalf Of John Burke 
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 8:27 PM 
> > > To: [log in to unmask] 
> > > Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] A new record? 
> > > 
> > > Not even close: 
> > > 
> > > RELEASE: C.65.00   MPE/iX HP31900 C.25.06   USER VERSION: C.65.03 
> > > CURRENT: TUE, NOV 14, 2006,  5:11 PM 
> > > LOGON:   MON, JAN 10, 2005, 12:36 PM 
> > > CPU SECONDS: 25         CONNECT MINUTES: 969395 
> > > 
> > > John Burke 
> > > Burke Consulting 
> > > Tel: 916-987-0265 
> > > e-mail: [log in to unmask] 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > -----Original Message----- 
> > > > From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On 
> > > > Behalf Of Denys Beauchemin 
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 6:18 PM 
> > > > To: [log in to unmask] 
> > > > Subject: [HP3000-L] A new record? 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > When I walked by the console of the 3000 today, I did a 
> > > > SHOWME:  the display 
> > > > showed CONNECT: 359996; 6,000 hours that translates to 250 days. 
> > > > 
> > > > The console is a HP terminal, 700/92, of course. 
> > > > 
> > > > Denys 
> > > > 
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